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I need to know the usual arguments against embryonic stem cell research and then I need the pro side too.?
Okay, I'm doing a science paper, and it's pro embryonic stem cell research. My teacher said it can be most convincing if it also shows both sides of the argument. So, I need to know the usual arguments people have against stem cell research, and then I also need the pro side to that argument. Thank you, any help is appreciated.
eib22 gives the standard "against" argument.
Of course, he/she is missing the point that the embryos used as sources for ES cells *have no possiblity* of future life: they are "leftover" fertilised eggs after a successful IVF treatment, and they'd just be discarded anyway.
No-one deliberately fertilises human embryos to make stem cells. And no-one "harvests" aborted foetuses for stem cells either (aborted foetuses are not viable sources for ES cells anyway - they are too developed).
Another "anti-" argument is that we don't yet know all the health risks for recipients of any stem cell therapy. Some work has suggested that the ES cells have a high risk of becoming teratomas in the patient.
The "pro" arguments are the great potential for healing.
There are many conditions (multiple sclerosis, huntington's disease, parkinson's disease, spinal cord injury, and many, many more) that cannot be effectively treated by current therapies or by transplantation. Stem cell therapy is (currently) the only way forward for these diseases.
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Stem Cell Research - Adult versus Embryonic Stem Cells / Pro-Life Educational Video PSA
if i am pro-life what would be easier to argue pro-life abortion or stem cell research?
I am doing a project for school and want to pick pro-life for one of the 2 topics what would be easier to argue for?
The science for ADULT stem cell research is there. So is umbilical stem cells. All moral and ethical questions aside, there is no science to think the cures to our ailments are in fetal stem cells. It's just politics with no science.
It's quite hard to change someone's mind on abortion. It either offends someone or it doesn't.
“You are telling me the Bishops supported a bill that effectively gives us socialized medicine just because abortion funding was temporarily removed from it?”
Quite simply, yes! And the hope is that the abortion language will stay out of the Senate version as well. You lump a lot of issues in your original post and your response together so let’s try to peel them apart one by one.
I had to look up who Saul Alinsky was (he was before my time) but I know that you refer to him and his rules for radicals quite often on this blog. On his wikipedia page, he is praised by William Buckley and he’s also called part of the “non-socialist left”
Catholic Bishops are anything but radicals, in fact, they are a hierarchy of old men who have held varying degrees of power worldwide for 2,000 years. They are part of the establishment, they aren’t trying to overthrow it. They don’t want to create chaos in the system.
I know that particular priests and other Catholics have had left leaning views or have even been community organizers, and some even are today, and that apparently some in Chicago aligned themselves with Alinsky, but that was never an official Church stance or doctrine and does not make the entire Church leftist—in fact it’s a rather big tent.
When you say “they aren’t leftist” they I assume is referring to the Church or Bishops as a whole, and they are hardly leftist, most leftist are atheist, pro-choice, pro-stem cell research, pro-gay marriage—the Catholic Church is against all of these things. This is after all, a Church that doesn’t give women equal say in decisions, decisions are all made by an all male Church hierarchy—the Church on the whole is hardly the leftist organization you presume it to be.
It is true that certain elements or people within the Catholic Church have always been political and have always leaned from the left—examples include Pope Leo XIII when he wrote his encyclical Rerum Novarum which supported the rights of workers to Dorothy Day (you could call her a community organizer) who started the Catholic Worker movement to Vatican II, which opened the doors for more liberal thinking in the Catholic Church in America.
But the Catholic Church as a whole, and the Catholic Church in America is neither explicitly left or right, or Democrat or Republican. In fact, because of abortion and the other issues I mentioned, the Bishops, and the USCCB (there is a difference, Bishops have a say over their particular diocese, the USCCB is the collection of the bishops, which technically has no say over a particular church or diocese, but basically all of the Bishops go along with whatever the USCCB decides) have been leaning to the right for the last 20 years or so. Officially, the Catholic Church and the Bishops endorse no political party, but the USCCB has released a non-partisan guide to voting and will speak out against any pro-choice politician, no matter what side of the aisle. Kincaid speaks of a “strong left wing drift” but I would say that denying pro-choice politicians communion or speaking out against the President addressing the graduates of Notre Dame would indicate a strong right wing drift on the part of the Bishops. And you assume “Pelosi had a little leverage here!” Actually, no, that’s not true, Pelosi has gotten in trouble with multiple Bishops over abortion rights, she has no leverage with the Bishops. Source:
As for immigration specifically, this is seen as a left leaning issue. I’m sure that Bishops and other Church members who have spoken out in favor of such a thing would cite things like “comforting the stranger” and doing things “for the least of our brothers.” Does that make the Bishops leftist or does that just make them Christian?
This is slightly off topic but other Christian groups have refugee resettlement agencies, World Relief being associated with the Lutheran Church for example. I know a woman that worked for World Relief that had a George Bush sticker on her car—hardly a radical, leftist Obama lover. She quoted the same scripture passages to me once that I mentioned in the previous paragraph—my point here being that immigration is seen as a liberal issue, but I know that there are conservative Christians and conservative Catholics that support immigration, or at the very least, refugee resettlement.
If this reasoning for Catholic Bishops for supporting immigration is too altruistic for you, consider that the only reason the Catholic Church in America is growing is because of immigrants. Obviously, the Bishops would want a growing Church, and would do things to support its growth.
I know a lot about the Catholic Church—but not a lot about its finances specifically. I do know that most if not all dioceses have a Catholic Charities in them (not all Catholic Charities have refugee resettlement program), and while each Catholic Charities is overseen by the Bishop, I would equate that to more of a Queen of England role. Bad example but you get the picture, the Bishop might decide how much funding the diocese gives to Catholic Charities (money that would come from a church’s second collection on a Sunday for example—a collection that is reserved for charities), but the actual money and day to day operations of Catholic Charities would be handled by other people, a director or whoever else. My point here being that if there is a misuse of tax dollars that Catholic Charities got from a federal contract as you claim, you probably couldn’t draw a straight line directly back to the Bishop, these same Bishops who by lobbying for the Stupak amendment or even for immigration, would be in their view, an political action that does not put them with a particular political party, but rather on a certain side of a certain political issue.
I’ve been reading your blog for awhile, and I think it’s a great source of news. What I don’t think is that all of these issues are simply black and white, or in your case, merely come down to our tax dollars. Misuse of tax dollars is obviously a bad thing but with Catholic churches and schools closing, I don’t think that any money is being funneled from the federal contracts that Catholic Charities gets into the Bishop’s back pockets or to pay the electric bill at St. Stephen’s. That’s what each church’s collection is for, and that collection money isn’t being used for advocacy work. It’s for the upkeep of the church.
As for ACORN, well, there were a lot of conservative Catholics upset when they found out about that. More info can be found here:
It’s not as if the Archbishop of Baltimore personally wrote a check to the director of ACORN. But your claim that “That $7.3 million that went to ACORN is chump change and may not have even come from parishioners—it might have come from taxpayers. That’s just not true, as my link states, that money came via a collection for the Catholic Campaign for Human Development from a second collection.
It is kinda funny though that you’re latching onto and attacking this big target (the Bishops/Catholic Church) the same way that pro-choice liberals are as well, but for different reasons. You claim that Catholic Charities is trying to take over the role of the state government—if you know of Saul Alinsky, surely you remember when John Kennedy had to defend himself for being Catholic—that he wouldn’t take answers from Rome. Let’s put the conspiracy theories to rest. Catholic Charities are not trying to usurp state governments and the Catholic Church is not trying to take over the world. There is no giant left wing Catholic conspiracy.
Dude. I like Mike Castle. One of the few remaining classic moderates: pro-stem cell research, pro campaign finance reform and truly anti-corruption, will vote for Democratic bills if they make sense to him, and not interested in the “culture wars.” He’s also a great friend to his state. I think the country would be well off with him in the Senate.
I'm both pro-life and pro-choice as I would CHOOSE to save the life of the woman who was mentally capable of yelling for help. How those 12 different embryos came to rest on a tray in this strange woman's house is beside the point that she wants and evidently needs my immediate help.
And being pro-choice doesn't necessarily mean that I would abort my own child if I was in the same situation that others decided otherwise. It's a personal choice that I have made in light of the freedoms I have to do so.
The freedom to learn through experience is priceless and prohibition does nothing but drive the issue out of the sight of those who detest whatever they feel needs to be stopped.
Unfortunately, as I consider myself a genuinely caring person, I don't have the luxury of putting out of my mind the very real fact that people are going to do what they choose to do regardless of what rules I try to make for them.
If pro-lifers were really serious about their cause, they would pursue a direction that hasn't already failed by the very nature of mankind. If you want people to make good choices in bad situation, work to educate them so that perhaps they won't need to.
It doesn't really matter what you do though. Some people are still going to do it simply because they don't care to plan ahead nor allow the repercussions effect their . Sometimes people just have to learn the hard way the importance of making good decisions in order to prevent situations that call for the hard ones.
I mean seriously, at what point do we realize that prohibition doesn't do anything but drive up prices within the "black market?" When prices are high, suppliers make money. When suppliers make more money, they grow. When they grow, their influence increases, although it may not seem apparent on the surface, it's basic economics and I have plenty of evidence to support the statement that the underground businesses probably move more currency around than any other business of equal size and overhead. Drug dealers are very busy people their merchandise is expensive (thanks to the DEA) and probably more common in any given household than rice krispies because there is a demand and you can't eliminate the desire for something by trying to make it more difficult, dangerous or expensive to attain.
It should be obvious by now that almost every time that the government gets involved in an issue that should really be taken care of in the family, they only take away from us our freedom to choose. There is no trade-off. We just give up freedom with the wishful hope that it will ultimately do some good when it's the responsibility of the individual in the first place to make good decisions relavent to our own lives.
If laws were really as effective as many think they are, we would have no use for prisons, but I suppose that many people are just content with having such problems out of sight.
Why did parent's if these type of people (the protesters) never got an abortion ?? lol