Bmx Forks
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We The People Justice BMX Frame Forks & Stem Street Park Dirt Bmx Frame & Forks | ![]() |
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US $175.00 | 25d 23h 57m |
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2012 SE Racing BMX 26" OM FLYER cruiser BLACK frame, fork, headset & clamp KIT | ![]() |
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US $249.99 | 15d 1h 48m |
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Free Agent Expert BMX Frame and fork kit. | ![]() |
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US $200.00 | 1d 6h 50m |
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TREK "sub atomic" BMX frame and fork kit. | ![]() |
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US $299.00 | 2d 17h 43m |
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RARE 2011 FENIX FLATLAND BMX FRAME , KHE TANAKA FORK & STOLEN SEALED BEARING H.S | ![]() |
0 Bid | US $325.00 | 4d 1h 6m |
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Model Mini BMX Bicycle X Pro Silverado Real Die Cast Tools Tires Frame Fork KIT | ![]() |
0 Bid | US $5.99 | 4d 1h 8m |
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Old School 80's BMX Redline Proline RL-20B 20" Chrome Frame w/ Haro Fork | ![]() |
0 Bid | US $79.99 | 4d 2h 40m |
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Fit Bike Co. 20" BMX Bike Frame & Fork Set w/ Stem & Handlebars | ![]() |
0 Bid | US $29.99 | 4d 2h 42m |
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24" Specialized Fatboy Hemi with Bombshell forks Bmx cruiser bike | ![]() |
0 Bid | US $280.00 | 4d 16h 58m |
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20" DK pro xl promotion bmx racing 4130 chromoly frame & fork and more | ![]() |
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US $150.00 | 5d 1h 38m |
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We The People Reason BMX Frame & Forks Dirt Street Park BMX New WTP | ![]() |
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US $199.00 | 12d 47m |
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2012 SE Racing BMX 24" FLOVAL FLYER XL cruiser BLUE frame & fork kit w/ headset | ![]() |
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US $259.99 | 15d 1h 52m |
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HARO PRO SERIES BMX FRAME & FORKS E2C 18.5 TOP TUBE 20" FREESTYLE | ![]() |
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US $59.00 | 28d 2h 50m |
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S&M BIKES WTF FRAME FORK BLUE 21 BMX BIKE FIT WHAT FIT S AND M | ![]() |
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US $499.00 | 29d 23h 58m |
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2011 HARO 300.1 MATTE GOLD AND MATTE BLACK FORK NEVER BEEN RIDDEN BMX | ![]() |
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US $125.00 | 29d 5h 50m |
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RED BMX REDLINE FLIGHT 24' ADULT CRUISER SUPERCROSS FORKS S&M BARS POWERBLOCK | ![]() |
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US $459.00 | 29d 3h 48m |
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New Hoffman BMX Condor Frame & Forks Old School BMX Blue | ![]() |
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US $150.00 | 26d 22h 44m |
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S&M BIKES WTF FRAME FORK GREEN 20.75 BMX BIKE FIT WHAT | ![]() |
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US $499.00 | 25d 10h 1m |
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REDLINE BMX CRUZER 24"PROLINE FRAME-FORK-NEACK | ![]() |
US $225.00 | 25d 7h 47m |
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S&M WTF BIKE FRAME & FORK fit 21" BLUE BMX FREESTYLE STREET x-lite 1 on sale.NEW | ![]() |
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US $449.99 | 21d 1h 38m |
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Redline Thread-less Chrome Bmx Forks Fork Set Pk Ripper GT Haro Standard S&M Mid | ![]() |
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US $61.99 | 27m |
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MIRRA BIKE CO M3 BMX BIKE 20" FORKS 1-1/8 14MM NEW | ![]() |
0 Bid | US $35.00 | 2h 18m |
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AKISU FORKS BMX FORKS NOS,MOUNTAIN BIKE, CRUSER BIKE,COOK BROS,MONGOOSE,SCHWINN | ![]() |
0 Bid | US $20.00 | 5h 10m |
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GT BMX forks hutch se redline mongoose | ![]() |
0 Bid | US $13.00 | 20h 12m |
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Verde Bmx Forks Chorus Lights | ![]() |
0 Bid | US $60.00 | 21h 14m |
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EASTERN ULTRA LITE BMX BIKE FORK 20" 14MM BLACK | ![]() |
0 Bid | US $55.00 | 23h 10m |
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20" 1 1/8 GT fat muscle style fork / bmx bike fork / GT fueler or thumper fork ? | ![]() |
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US $30.00 | 1d 3h 7m |
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OLD SCHOOL BMX TANGE RACE FORK TX1200W 1979 9D REDLINE,DIAMOND BACK,GT | ![]() |
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US $45.00 | 1d 6h 48m |
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NOS Old School, BMX Kastan Red Racing Bike Frame with Uniblade Fork, , Pro 20" | ![]() |
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US $1,300.00 | 1d 18h 31m |
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THE SHADOW CONSPIRACY TSC CREEPER BMX BIKE FORK 20" #035 PURPLE | ![]() |
0 Bid | US $69.00 | 1d 20h 1m |
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Vintage Robinson 24" BMX cruiser Fork redline mongoose elf gt | ![]() |
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US $79.99 | 1d 22h 15m |
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PRIMO KAMIKAZE 2 BMX BIKE FORK 20" BLACK | ![]() |
0 Bid | US $69.00 | 2d 59m |
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Specialized BMX Forks 4130 CRO-MO | ![]() |
3 Bids | US $1.75 | 2d 1h 50m |
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EASTERN FLATLAND,FREESTYLE,BMX FORK!! 990 BRAKES COMPLETE BRAND NEW!!! | ![]() |
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US $35.00 | 2d 4h 25m |
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1" Formula Carbon Fiber Forks mini/expert BMX | ![]() |
1 Bid | US $30.00 | 2d 5h 54m |
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BMX MIDSCHOOL(LANDING GEAR ) FORKS USED | ![]() |
0 Bid | US $35.00 | 2d 15h 19m |
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S&M Ditchfork ditch fork ditchforks bmx pitchforks standard bmx fbm s&m dirtbike | ![]() |
3 Bids | US $36.00 | 2d 22h 7m |
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haro 20" bmx fork 20 x11/8 3/8 bmx bicycle fork mid school haro fork profile | ![]() |
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US $50.00 | 6h 21m |
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Odyssey Bmx R32 R-32 Fork GY3 Gary Young 3 Handlebars Grips Build Kit NEW!! | ![]() |
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US $169.00 | 3d 2h 27m |
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PRIMO KAMIKAZE 2 BMX BIKE FORK 20" WHITE | ![]() |
0 Bid | US $69.00 | 3d 2h 31m |
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Bmx Forks

Are the forks in the BMX bike just like the suspensions on the MTBs??and is it easier to do wheelie on a BMX??
I'm trying to figure out the forks and the suspensions, are the forks in BMX bikes the same as suspensions ?? Are the forks bouncy (for the good bikes) ?? and i can do wheelie and manuals on a MTB, is it easier to do it on a bmx ?? or is it harder because it doesnt have suspensions ?? also which one is heavier, mtb (hardtail) or bmx (that cost about 400-600 bucks) ??
thx in advance
I don't know exactly what you mean by "are the forks in bmx bikes the same as suspensions"..
This could possibly answer your first question, no bmx bikes and mtb forks are very, very different.. unless it is a rigid mtb (one with no suspension)
You can adjust alot of mtb forks to be harder or softer when it comes to suspension..
You can do wheelies and alot of other tricks on a MTB.. it is pretty easy to do a wheelie on a mtb since you can preload the suspension and use the bounce to lift you up.. Its a little different but its not exactly difficult.
Mtbs will be a little heavier because they have more components, larger tires, and larger frames..
You can look at the Giant Yukon.. http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-US/bikes/mountain/10/28076/ It weighs in at only 32 pounds for a good price (you can usually find them for 425 in some shops)..
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We The People Justice BMX Frame Forks & Stem Street Park Dirt Bmx Frame & Forks | ![]() |
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US $175.00 | 25d 23h 57m |
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2012 SE Racing BMX 26" OM FLYER cruiser BLACK frame, fork, headset & clamp KIT | ![]() |
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US $249.99 | 15d 1h 48m |
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Free Agent Expert BMX Frame and fork kit. | ![]() |
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US $200.00 | 1d 6h 50m |
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TREK "sub atomic" BMX frame and fork kit. | ![]() |
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US $299.00 | 2d 17h 43m |
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RARE 2011 FENIX FLATLAND BMX FRAME , KHE TANAKA FORK & STOLEN SEALED BEARING H.S | ![]() |
0 Bid | US $325.00 | 4d 1h 6m |
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Model Mini BMX Bicycle X Pro Silverado Real Die Cast Tools Tires Frame Fork KIT | ![]() |
0 Bid | US $5.99 | 4d 1h 8m |
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Old School 80's BMX Redline Proline RL-20B 20" Chrome Frame w/ Haro Fork | ![]() |
0 Bid | US $79.99 | 4d 2h 40m |
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Fit Bike Co. 20" BMX Bike Frame & Fork Set w/ Stem & Handlebars | ![]() |
0 Bid | US $29.99 | 4d 2h 42m |
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24" Specialized Fatboy Hemi with Bombshell forks Bmx cruiser bike | ![]() |
0 Bid | US $280.00 | 4d 16h 58m |
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20" DK pro xl promotion bmx racing 4130 chromoly frame & fork and more | ![]() |
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US $150.00 | 5d 1h 38m |
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We The People Reason BMX Frame & Forks Dirt Street Park BMX New WTP | ![]() |
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US $199.00 | 12d 47m |
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2012 SE Racing BMX 24" FLOVAL FLYER XL cruiser BLUE frame & fork kit w/ headset | ![]() |
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US $259.99 | 15d 1h 52m |
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HARO PRO SERIES BMX FRAME & FORKS E2C 18.5 TOP TUBE 20" FREESTYLE | ![]() |
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US $59.00 | 28d 2h 50m |
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S&M BIKES WTF FRAME FORK BLUE 21 BMX BIKE FIT WHAT FIT S AND M | ![]() |
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US $499.00 | 29d 23h 58m |
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2011 HARO 300.1 MATTE GOLD AND MATTE BLACK FORK NEVER BEEN RIDDEN BMX | ![]() |
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US $125.00 | 29d 5h 50m |
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RED BMX REDLINE FLIGHT 24' ADULT CRUISER SUPERCROSS FORKS S&M BARS POWERBLOCK | ![]() |
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US $459.00 | 29d 3h 48m |
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New Hoffman BMX Condor Frame & Forks Old School BMX Blue | ![]() |
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US $150.00 | 26d 22h 44m |
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S&M BIKES WTF FRAME FORK GREEN 20.75 BMX BIKE FIT WHAT | ![]() |
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US $499.00 | 25d 10h 1m |
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REDLINE BMX CRUZER 24"PROLINE FRAME-FORK-NEACK | ![]() |
US $225.00 | 25d 7h 47m |
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S&M WTF BIKE FRAME & FORK fit 21" BLUE BMX FREESTYLE STREET x-lite 1 on sale.NEW | ![]() |
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US $449.99 | 21d 1h 38m |
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Old School BMX Navajo mini RARE! Blazer BMX 2nd gen. Free Agent fork | ![]() |
0 Bid | US $150.00 | 3h 9m |
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WALD BMX Quill STEM for 1" threaded fork Old School | ![]() |
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US $9.99 | 18d 5h 43m |
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1987 Haro Group 1 RS3 Frame and Fork Set Sport Master FST FSX Oldschool BMX | ![]() |
0 Bid | US $100.00 | 21h 1m |
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1983 SCHWINN PREDATOR Frame Fork Oval Aero Tubing, HUCTH,GT,REDLINE, BMX | ![]() |
0 Bid | US $34.00 | 21h 45m |
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1992 GT Interceptor Frame and fork Old School, BMX, Freestyle, Race Chrome | ![]() |
0 Bid | US $50.00 | 1d 3h 36m |
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1994 Dyno GT VFR Frame And Fork Vintage Chrome BMX Freestyle Race Old School | ![]() |
0 Bid | US $60.00 | 1d 3h 36m |
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1993 GT Interceptor Frame And Fork Vintage Chrome BMX Freestyle Race Old School | ![]() |
0 Bid | US $100.00 | 1d 3h 36m |
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BMX Diamondback Fork standers Grip plates | ![]() |
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US $8.50 | 1d 4h 45m |
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GT BMX Santa Ana 1983 Frame & Forks | ![]() |
1 Bid | US $49.95 | 1d 18h 56m |
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Diamondback 1986 MIKE DOMINGUEZ STRIKE ZONE Frame &Fork Mike D. Handlebars BMX | ![]() |
1 Bid | US $129.99 | 1d 20h 45m |
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HARO GROUP 1 88/89 FRAME, FORK, AND HANDLE BARS - MIKE KING SIGNATURE - BMX BIKE | ![]() |
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US $102.00 | 2d 4h 47m |
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old school bmx powerlite frame and forks | ![]() |
0 Bid | US $100.00 | 3d 40m |
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20'' Old school gt interceptor bmx frame and fork 92 | ![]() |
0 Bid | US $49.99 | 3d 4h 4m |
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Old School Freestyle BMX 1987 Haro Master Frame and Fork | ![]() |
9 Bids | US $202.50 | 3d 6h 43m |
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Vintage P K Ripper Frame* GT Fork* Jr Bars, BMX SE Racing PK S E | ![]() |
1 Bid | US $200.00 | 3d 8h 27m |
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Redline Thread-less Chrome Bmx Forks Fork Set Pk Ripper GT Haro Standard S&M Mid | ![]() |
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US $61.99 | 27m |
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MIRRA BIKE CO M3 BMX BIKE 20" FORKS 1-1/8 14MM NEW | ![]() |
0 Bid | US $35.00 | 2h 18m |
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AKISU FORKS BMX FORKS NOS,MOUNTAIN BIKE, CRUSER BIKE,COOK BROS,MONGOOSE,SCHWINN | ![]() |
0 Bid | US $20.00 | 5h 10m |
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GT BMX forks hutch se redline mongoose | ![]() |
0 Bid | US $13.00 | 20h 12m |
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Verde Bmx Forks Chorus Lights | ![]() |
0 Bid | US $60.00 | 21h 14m |
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EASTERN ULTRA LITE BMX BIKE FORK 20" 14MM BLACK | ![]() |
0 Bid | US $55.00 | 23h 10m |
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20" 1 1/8 GT fat muscle style fork / bmx bike fork / GT fueler or thumper fork ? | ![]() |
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US $30.00 | 1d 3h 7m |
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OLD SCHOOL BMX TANGE RACE FORK TX1200W 1979 9D REDLINE,DIAMOND BACK,GT | ![]() |
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US $45.00 | 1d 6h 48m |
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NOS Old School, BMX Kastan Red Racing Bike Frame with Uniblade Fork, , Pro 20" | ![]() |
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US $1,300.00 | 1d 18h 31m |
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THE SHADOW CONSPIRACY TSC CREEPER BMX BIKE FORK 20" #035 PURPLE | ![]() |
0 Bid | US $69.00 | 1d 20h 1m |
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Vintage Robinson 24" BMX cruiser Fork redline mongoose elf gt | ![]() |
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US $79.99 | 1d 22h 15m |
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PRIMO KAMIKAZE 2 BMX BIKE FORK 20" BLACK | ![]() |
0 Bid | US $69.00 | 2d 59m |
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Specialized BMX Forks 4130 CRO-MO | ![]() |
3 Bids | US $1.75 | 2d 1h 50m |
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EASTERN FLATLAND,FREESTYLE,BMX FORK!! 990 BRAKES COMPLETE BRAND NEW!!! | ![]() |
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US $35.00 | 2d 4h 25m |
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1" Formula Carbon Fiber Forks mini/expert BMX | ![]() |
1 Bid | US $30.00 | 2d 5h 54m |
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BMX MIDSCHOOL(LANDING GEAR ) FORKS USED | ![]() |
0 Bid | US $35.00 | 2d 15h 19m |
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S&M Ditchfork ditch fork ditchforks bmx pitchforks standard bmx fbm s&m dirtbike | ![]() |
3 Bids | US $36.00 | 2d 22h 7m |
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haro 20" bmx fork 20 x11/8 3/8 bmx bicycle fork mid school haro fork profile | ![]() |
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US $50.00 | 6h 21m |
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Odyssey Bmx R32 R-32 Fork GY3 Gary Young 3 Handlebars Grips Build Kit NEW!! | ![]() |
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US $169.00 | 3d 2h 27m |
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PRIMO KAMIKAZE 2 BMX BIKE FORK 20" WHITE | ![]() |
0 Bid | US $69.00 | 3d 2h 31m |
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BMX MIDSCHOOL(POWER LITE ) FRAME AND FORKS USED | ![]() |
1 Bid | US $150.00 | 1d 2h 31m |
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GHP BMX 24'' 1-1/8 cruiser fork (white) | ![]() |
0 Bid | US $60.00 | 3d 5h 28m |
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REDLINE FORK LIFTER HANDLEBAR ALUMINIUM OLD SCHOOL BMX | ![]() |
0 Bid | US $25.00 | 1d 6h 19m |
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used nice Haro Sport 87 frame fork Old School BMX Freestyle Master Invert FST | ![]() |
0 Bid | US $399.99 | 3d 17h 29m |
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schwinn bmx xs frame/fork haro redline elf gt boss | ![]() |
0 Bid | US $19.99 | 2d 8h 46m |
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FIT BIKE SHIV 2 LIGHT FORKS CHROME 3/8 MM BMX S&M II | ![]() |
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US $119.99 | 29d 10h 22m |
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UNMARKED ASHTABULA BMX FORKS OLD SCHOOL BMX FOR SCHWINN | ![]() |
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US $39.85 | 2d 17h 49m |
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VINTAGE USED CHROME FORKS WEEP HOLES 1 INCH THREADED OLD SKOOL BMX FREESTYLE | ![]() |
0 Bid | US $4.99 | 2d 3h 59m |
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supercross 24in bmx and bars. bombshell carbon fiber forks elf, gt crupi, fit | ![]() |
0 Bid | US $325.00 | 2d 20h 35m |
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NOS BMX GT 4130 CR MO Wing fork decals stickers chrome | ![]() |
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US $8.00 | 9d 4h 16m |
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MONGOOSE | CALIFORNIAN | FORK ALL CHROMOLY 1984 REALLY NICE BMX PART 84 | ![]() |
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US $109.99 | 2h 43m |
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OLD SCHOOL BMX MONGOOSE EXPERT / CALIFORNIAN FORKS,RED LINE,COOK BROS,GT,HARO | ![]() |
0 Bid | US $65.00 | 5h 7m |
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OLD SCHOOL VINTAGE BMX CYCLE PRO AERO FORKS 20" CHROME NOS | ![]() |
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US $85.00 | 5h 12m |
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Oldschool GT BMX 80's fork's Mach One GT Pro Performer Pro Series | ![]() |
2 Bids | US $5.50 | 6h 8m |
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NOS Profile BMX Midschool Forks Marked 1996 | ![]() |
0 Bid | US $50.00 | 6h 14m |
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NOS !!!!!! 86 SKYWAY TA FRAME FORK OLD SCHOOL BMX GT HUTCH HARO DYNO MONGOOSE PK | ![]() |
10 Bids | US $406.00 | 6h 24m |
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Nos BMX Decal Sticker for pro freestyle tour frame handle bar seat post fork gt | ![]() |
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US $24.99 | 7h 57m |
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Haro Forks BMX Master FST Shredder Freestyle Freestyler Mid School | ![]() |
1 Bid | US $15.00 | 15h 21m |
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Old School Bmx Oval Fork Forks Hutch Schwinn Redline Mongoose GT Haro Pk Ripper | ![]() |
12 Bids | US $50.00 | 19h 48m |
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NOS RARE GT Chrome Fork BMX old school Performer Bike F09 | ![]() |
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US $85.00 | 21h 57m |
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Drink Mixer
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DescriptionPortable drink mixer is fast and powerful.Small enough to fit into purse or pocket.Carrying case and extra mixing wand included.Powered by 2 AA batteries (not included).BPA-Free. |
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Manitou Marvel Pro 26" Fork 100mm White QR Tapered
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DescriptionManitou Marvel Suspension ForksAll 2012 Manitou forks are convertible to MILO remote lockout lever by using FK5510Item SpecificationsColorWhiteBrake Usage F/RFrontCrown Race30.0Steerer Tube Length265mmBrake TypeDiscWheel Size26"Fork Travel100mmFront Hub Spacing100mmFront Axle Type9x1SpringAirWheel Mount Center Offset0mmLockoutCrown MountedDefined ColorWhiteS... |
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Redline Complete Decal Set Red
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DescriptionA complete frame decal set with multiple frame, fork, bar & post decals. 2 big, 4 medium, 2 small REDLINEs, 8 small RLs, NO head badge. Available in red, white, black or blue. |
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BMX - VSI PRODUCTS SINZ CRO-MO FORK 20x1-1/8" BLK SFK-03 |
DescriptionPhoto's are for reference only. Please read item title carefully as the manufacturers part number is the item you will receive. |
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BMX - VSI PRODUCTS SINZ CRO-MO FORK 24x1-1/8" BLK SFK-04 |
DescriptionPhoto's are for reference only. Please read item title carefully as the manufacturers part number is the item you will receive. |
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GoPro Handlebar Seatpost Mount for HERO Cameras |
DescriptionGoPro Camera Accessories. Features: Replacement wrist housing for Digital HERO 3 |
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Cannondale Lefty Fork Hardware Bolts - 2 Bolts |
DescriptionCannondale Lefty Fork Hardware Bolts |
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Vintage Distressed Forks BMX Racing Tri-Blend T-Shirt |
DescriptionGo Vintage! Super Popular Tri-Blend by Solid Gold Bomb™Solid Gold Bomb (SGB) is here! Printed on the American Apparel TR401 Tri-Blend Short Sleeve Track Shirt. Made of the three fabric combination (50% Polyester / 25% Cotton / 25% Rayon), this tee retains shape and elasticity... |
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Gloves Half Finger Size Medium Leather Bottom Elastic Top For Comfort Fit Good for Cycle BMX Scooter Skateboard Weight lifting Driving Size: Medium |
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Gloves Half Finger Leather MEDIUM Good for Cycle BMX Scooter Skateboard Weight lifting Driving Double Strap All Black |
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Treasure of Khan (Dirk Pitt Adventure)
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Description(Literature, Adventure) Approx. (9 1/2 X 6 1/2). Hardcover. Signed First Edition. Very Good/Very Good. |
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Go-Ped Know-Ped Kick Scooter (Red) |
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Go-Ped GSR Sport Gas Powered City Scooter (Gloss Black)
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DescriptionThe Go-Ped GSR Sport combines the powerful GSR40 style chain drive system and the versatility of the original Sport Go-Ped. The gas-powered scooter is equipped with the fuel-efficient and quiet GPL290 engine, which provides a smooth acceleration to reach speeds above 21 miles per hour in stock configuration... |
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Mongoose Spin BMX Freestyle Bike (20-Inch Wheels)
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DescriptionClassic BMX styling combined with a host of quality safety features make this a great bike for track and street riders. Equipped with a handcrafted Hi-Ten Boy's Team series frame and a handcrafted Hi-Ten jumping fork, the Mongoose Spin BMX bike is strong enough for off-road cycling, dirt jumping, and trick riding... |
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Lizard Skins BMX Fork Boot Black |
DescriptionWant to keep your fork clean while you race? This black fork boot from Lizard Skins is just what you need! |
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Wald 742 Training Wheels (16-26-Inch)
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DescriptionThe Wald 742 Training wheels provide the stability required to learn to pedal and operate a bike. The pair of training wheels can be installed on any single speed bike with 16, 20, 24, or 26-inch wheels... |
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KMC Z410 Bicycle Chain (1-Speed, 1/2 x 1/8-Inch, 112L)
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DescriptionThe KMC Z410 Chain is perfect for your BMX or Single Speed bike. The KMC Z410 Chain is a 1/2" x 1/8" chain and has 112 Links except the black chain which has 96 Links. |
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Greenfield SKS2BC Rear Mount Oversize Carded Kickstand (Black, 285mm)
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DescriptionMounts on rear chain stays and seat stays. Fits stays up to 7/8 diameter stays. |


































































































those bikes rock, Titanium is by far the best material for a MTB. I have a setavento custom ti, and the joys of riding a titanium frame are immense. I came back to MTBing after a long absence with a 2004 Stumpjumper FSR which was a real beauty of a bike, I then started getting into the bigger stuff so got an enduro also a great bike. But after a while of riding the enduro I started to get bored, long travel bikes are, in my opinion largely out of place in the south east of England, they smooth everything out and make stuff too predictable.
I decided to go back to the roots and swapped a pare of forks for an old Kona shute frame built it up and fell in love with the way it handled, I was having fun again, having to pick lines and really concentrate. However I found that my back could not take to long on the kona's stiff aluminum frame so I had the ti frame made to same specs and have not looked back, what a difference.
just a comment on your notes about the relative acceleration of the two bikes, you mentioned that the Cotic had tubeless wheels on, there is the difference right there, lower rotational mass on really light rims means faster acceleration.
cheers for indulging me and welcome to Ti tastic riding
hylton